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		<title>Film Test&#8230; part I</title>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 07 Jan 2010 03:06:58 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Jeanette</dc:creator>
				<category><![CDATA[Arty Notions]]></category>
		<category><![CDATA[Sports]]></category>
		<category><![CDATA[135mm]]></category>
		<category><![CDATA[black & white film]]></category>
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		<category><![CDATA[film comparison]]></category>
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		<description><![CDATA[After giving up on consumer-level digital photography in low-light fast-action conditions, I went back to shooting basketball in the Shirk Center with my mom&#8217;s dad&#8217;s old Minolta XRTII manual SLR (no batteries needed!), and shot with a variety of film in order to choose the one I like best. All three of these films were [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>After giving up on consumer-level digital photography in low-light fast-action conditions, I went back to shooting basketball in the Shirk Center with my mom&#8217;s dad&#8217;s old Minolta XRTII manual SLR (no batteries needed!), and shot with a variety of film in order to choose the one I like best. All three of these films were developed by <a href="http://coopersimaging.com">Cooper&#8217;s Imaging</a> in CT. The summaries:</p>
<h2><a href="http://www.bhphotovideo.com/c/product/381225-REG/Foma_420424_Fomapan_Action_400_135_24.html">FOMAPAN action 400</a> black/white negative film</h2>
<ul>
<li>Picks up detail well, but a little grainy.</li>
<li>Needs slower shutter speeds (~250)</li>
<li>Dark photos don&#8217;t have a lot of contrast</li>
<li><img src=http://www.getsmileyface.com/sm/happy/009.gif border=0/> Excellent dark/light contrast</li>
<li><img src=http://www.getsmileyface.com/sm/sad/021.gif /> Out-of-focus shots really pull out the graininess</li>
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<p>From the package: B/W negative film with good resolving power, low granularity and wide exposure latitude.</p>
<h2><a href="http://www.bhphotovideo.com/c/product/24744-REG/Ilford_1574577_HP5_Plus_135_36_Black.html">Ilford HP5 Plus 400</a> Black &amp; White Film</h2>
<p>scanner won&#8217;t read the photos &#8211; too dark. Think the stop-down communication between the lens and the camera body was not accurate. Too many photos too dark. Nonetheless&#8230;</p>
<ul>
<li>A very dull and dark negative switched into lab mode and then an auto-levels applied. Wow. Definitely can work with that, but it only works with some negatives.<br />
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<th>Original</th>
<th>&nbsp;</th>
<th>Auto Levels</th>
<th>&nbsp;</th>
<th>Curves</th>
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<td><div id="attachment_392" class="wp-caption alignleft" style="width: 110px"><img class="size-full wp-image-392" title="009-01 original" src="http://theobstinatesnooper.nnettsplace.com/home/nnettsplace/www/theobstinatesnooper/wp-content/uploads/2010/01/iwu-macmurray_009-01a.jpg" alt="009-01 original" width="100" height="160" /><p class="wp-caption-text">009-01 original</p></div></td>
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<p>&#8211;></td>
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<p><div id="attachment_393" class="wp-caption alignright" style="width: 110px"><img class="size-full wp-image-393" title="009-01 lab mode auto levels" src="http://theobstinatesnooper.nnettsplace.com/home/nnettsplace/www/theobstinatesnooper/wp-content/uploads/2010/01/iwu-macmurray_009-01b.jpg" alt="009-01 lab mode auto levels" width="100" height="160" /><p class="wp-caption-text">009-01 lab mode auto levels</p></div></td>
<td>&#8211;></td>
<td><div id="attachment_403" class="wp-caption alignright" style="width: 110px"><img src="http://theobstinatesnooper.nnettsplace.com/home/nnettsplace/www/theobstinatesnooper/wp-content/uploads/2010/01/iwu-macmurray_009-01c.jpg" alt="009-01 curves" title="009-01 curves" width="100" height="160" class="size-full wp-image-403" /><p class="wp-caption-text">009-01 curves</p></div></td>
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</li>
<li><img src=http://www.getsmileyface.com/sm/sad/021.gif /> The negative edges curl, which makes it annoying to place in the negative holder for the scanner</li>
</ul>
<h2><a href="http://www.bhphotovideo.com/c/product/601023-REG/Kentmere_6012379_Kentmere_35mm_Black_and.html">Kentmere 400</a> Black &#038; White Film</h2>
<p>BH&#8217;s summary: </p>
<blockquote><p>This is a fast black and white film geared for general use. It produces sharp images with fine grain. As a high speed film, it is suitable for normal and low light photography.</p></blockquote>
<ul>
<li>Looks nice and bright until enlarged, and then not in focus. Humph. (But that&#8217;s my fault, not the films&#8230; unless it isn&#8217;t fast enough, but it&#8217;s bright enough to kick up the shutter speed <strong>one</strong> notch.)</li>
<li><img src=http://www.getsmileyface.com/sm/sad/021.gif /> Sometimes bright, but not much contrast, which comes out when they aren&#8217;t too bright. BH says it has good contrast, but apparently not in low light conditions.</li>
<li>I think this would be great for something other than Shirk photography.</li>
<li><img src=http://www.getsmileyface.com/sm/happy/009.gif border=0/> Then again, I kinda like it. There is <strong>no</strong> grain! It is a very sharp and clear film. This contrast puzzle bears a second look<br />
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<th>Icky</th>
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<th>Nice</th>
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<td><div id="attachment_415" class="wp-caption aligncenter" style="width: 160px"><img src="http://theobstinatesnooper.nnettsplace.com/home/nnettsplace/www/theobstinatesnooper/wp-content/uploads/2010/01/IWU-StFrancis007.jpg" alt="not much contrast" title="not much contrast" width="150" height="229" class="size-full wp-image-415" /><p class="wp-caption-text">Original: not much contrast</p></div></td>
<td>vs.</td>
<td><div id="attachment_416" class="wp-caption aligncenter" style="width: 160px"><img src="http://theobstinatesnooper.nnettsplace.com/home/nnettsplace/www/theobstinatesnooper/wp-content/uploads/2010/01/IWU-StFrancis019.jpg" alt="better contrast" title="better contrast" width="150" height="228" class="size-full wp-image-416" /><p class="wp-caption-text">Original: better contrast; too bright?</p></div></td>
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</li>
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<h2>Decision?</h2>
<p>By the time I decide, basketball season will be over! Oh well. At least IWU&#8217;s celebration of 100 years of men&#8217;s basketball is this weekend, and I have approximately seven rolls of film (mostly Ilford).</p>
<p><a href="http://www.getsmileyface.com/">Get Smiley icons</a></p>
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		<title>Working with LAB space</title>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 07 Dec 2009 03:31:10 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Jeanette</dc:creator>
				<category><![CDATA[Arty Notions]]></category>
		<category><![CDATA[editing photos]]></category>
		<category><![CDATA[lab mode]]></category>
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		<description><![CDATA[Since I&#8217;m getting back into sports photography, I&#8217;ve been playing with photoshop again, this time referencing Photoshop LAB Color: The Canyon Conundrum and Other Adventures in the Most Powerful Colorspace. Best photos to edit in LAB mode are those that are washed out. For example, I edited a photo I entitled &#8220;missed &#8212; drowned rat&#8221; [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Since I&#8217;m getting back into sports photography, I&#8217;ve been playing with photoshop again, this time referencing <a title="Amazon book link Photoshop LAB Color" href="http://www.amazon.com/Photoshop-LAB-Color-Adventures-Colorspace/dp/0321356780/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&amp;s=books&amp;qid=1260155231&amp;sr=8-1-spell">Photoshop LAB Color: The Canyon Conundrum and Other Adventures in the Most Powerful Colorspace</a>. Best photos to edit in LAB mode are those that are washed out. For example, I edited a photo I entitled &#8220;missed &#8212; drowned rat&#8221; from my time out on Hutchinson Island in Florida spring 09. Unusually, there were massive amounts of kelp in the water; most of the time the water is teal blue, but the waves were mostly green.</p>
<p>The original:<br />
<div id="attachment_342" class="wp-caption alignnone" style="width: 510px"><img class="size-full wp-image-342" title="Drowned Rat (original)" src="http://theobstinatesnooper.nnettsplace.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/12/IMG_2043x500-drowned-rat.jpg" alt="Original as photographed" width="500" height="375" /><p class="wp-caption-text">Original as photographed</p></div></p>
<p>The final after editing curves in LAB mode:</p>
<div id="attachment_343" class="wp-caption alignnone" style="width: 510px"><img class="size-full wp-image-343" title="Drowned rat LAB edited" src="http://theobstinatesnooper.nnettsplace.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/12/IMG_2043-newx500-drowned-r.jpg" alt="Final as edited in LAB mode" width="500" height="375" /><p class="wp-caption-text">Final as edited in LAB mode</p></div>
<p>Since I enabled the History Log in Photoshop (CS2), I&#8217;m adding that as reference here. For a quick recap, after converting to LAB mode, I cancelled out of Image&gt;Adjustments&gt;Threshold to not make any changes, but to determine that darkest and lightest points on the photo. Then  I increased the slope of the curves in the Lightness channel around my face so as to make it pop out of the shadow, and adjusted both the a and b channels to bring out both the turbulent green waves and the calmer blue troughs. After an Unsharp Mask on the Lightness Channel and a conversion back to RGB, I completed a brightness/contrast adjustment, saved and voila.</p>
<blockquote><p>2009-12-06 20:53:08	File IMG_2043.jpg opened<br />
Convert Mode<br />
To: Lab color mode<br />
Curves<br />
Curves<br />
Adjustment: curves adjustment list<br />
<strong>curves adjustment</strong><br />
<strong>Channel: lightness channel<br />
Curve: point list<br />
point: 0, 0<br />
point: 22, 37<br />
point: 39, 70<br />
point: 88, 115<br />
point: 255, 255</strong><br />
<strong><span style="color: #008000;">curves adjustment<br />
Channel: a channel<br />
Curve: point list<br />
point: 13, 0<br />
point: 238, 255</span></strong><br />
<strong><span style="color: #000080;">curves adjustment<br />
Channel: b channel<br />
Curve: point list<br />
point: 14, 0<br />
point: 239, 255</span></strong><br />
Select lightness channel<br />
Show a channel, b channel<br />
Unsharp Mask<br />
Unsharp Mask<br />
Amount: 206%<br />
Radius: 1.2 pixels<br />
Threshold: 76<br />
RGB Color<br />
Convert Mode<br />
To: RGB color mode<br />
Brightness/Contrast<br />
Brightness/Contrast<br />
Brightness: 10<br />
Contrast: 7<br />
Save<br />
As: JPEG<br />
Quality: 12<br />
Matte: none</p></blockquote>
<p>Since all my sports photos will be manual and b/w, I&#8217;m not sure how extensively I&#8217;ll use LAB mode, but it is fun to play with.</p>
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		<title>Playing in the Lab Lightness Channel</title>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 06 Jun 2008 22:25:48 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Jeanette</dc:creator>
				<category><![CDATA[Arty Notions]]></category>
		<category><![CDATA[lab mode]]></category>
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		<category><![CDATA[sweet peppers]]></category>

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		<description><![CDATA[About a year ago, maybe less, maybe a bit longer, I purchased a book called Photoshop Lab Color: The Canyon Conundrum and Other Adventures in the Most Powerful Colorspace. Though I&#8217;ve played with it, a bit here and there, I haven&#8217;t really progressed through the book as much as I might like to, if I [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>About a year ago, maybe less, maybe a bit longer, I purchased a book called <em>Photoshop Lab Color: The Canyon Conundrum and Other Adventures in the Most Powerful Colorspace</em>. Though I&#8217;ve played with it, a bit here and there, I haven&#8217;t really progressed through the book as much as I might like to, if I had many fewer activities. For me, and my crazy skip-to-skip-around personality, the best thing about the book has been the introduction to the fact that Lab Mode actually exists in Photoshop. I use version CS2, and since I don&#8217;t need it professionally, I don&#8217;t see the need to upgrade. I&#8217;m not sure how the color mode exists in other versions, both since and previous.</p>
<p>When I first started looking at the color space, I quickly became aware that many of the filters were grayed out and unusable in the color space. Today, I found out that if I go to the channels tab, and select the Placed this channel, the filters come back full force. The differences between using a filter on the Lightness channel and Lab Mode and using a filter regularly in RGB Mode are slight. But to my eye, I prefer the Lightness channel. What do you prefer? (You can also apply filters to the <strong><em>a</em></strong> and <strong><em>b</em></strong> channels, but these bring on strong color alterations.)</p>
<p>For today&#8217;s post on my second blog, <span style="text-decoration: line-through;">temporarily</span> called <a href="http://visualsnooper.nnettsplace.com">Visual Snoopin&#8217;</a>, I chose an old photo of some sweet peppers from my garden in 2006. I wanted to spice it up a little bit, so I decided to apply a filter. And then I found that I could use filters in the Lightness channel in Lab Mode.</p>
<p>Below, I&#8217;ve posted examples of the difference between using filters on the Lightness channel in Lab Mode (Left) and RGB Mode (Right). You can view my final selection at <a href="http://visualsnooper.nnettsplace.com">Visual Snoopin&#8217;</a> if you wish.</p>
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<td><a href="http://theobstinatesnooper.nnettsplace.server267.com/wp-content/uploads/2008/06/labbas1.jpg"><img class="alignnone size-full wp-image-87" src="http://theobstinatesnooper.nnettsplace.server267.com/wp-content/uploads/2008/06/labbas1.jpg" alt="Lab bas relief" width="267" height="200" /></a></p>
<p>lab bas relief</td>
<td><a href="http://theobstinatesnooper.nnettsplace.server267.com/wp-content/uploads/2008/06/rgbbas.jpg"><img class="alignnone size-full wp-image-88" src="http://theobstinatesnooper.nnettsplace.server267.com/wp-content/uploads/2008/06/rgbbas.jpg" alt="RGB bas relief" width="267" height="200" /></a></p>
<p>rgb bas relief</td>
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<td><a href="http://theobstinatesnooper.nnettsplace.server267.com/wp-content/uploads/2008/06/labchrome.jpg"><img class="alignnone size-full wp-image-86" src="http://theobstinatesnooper.nnettsplace.server267.com/wp-content/uploads/2008/06/labchrome.jpg" alt="LAB chrome" width="267" height="200" /></a></p>
<p>lab chrome</td>
<td><a href="http://theobstinatesnooper.nnettsplace.server267.com/wp-content/uploads/2008/06/rgbchrome.jpg"><img class="alignnone size-full wp-image-89" src="http://theobstinatesnooper.nnettsplace.server267.com/wp-content/uploads/2008/06/rgbchrome.jpg" alt="RGB chrome" width="267" height="200" /></a></p>
<p>rgb chrome</td>
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<td><a href="http://theobstinatesnooper.nnettsplace.server267.com/wp-content/uploads/2008/06/labdark.jpg"><img class="alignnone size-full wp-image-90" src="http://theobstinatesnooper.nnettsplace.server267.com/wp-content/uploads/2008/06/labdark.jpg" alt="LAB dark" width="267" height="200" /></a></p>
<p>lab dark</td>
<td><a href="http://theobstinatesnooper.nnettsplace.server267.com/wp-content/uploads/2008/06/rgbdark.jpg"><img class="alignnone size-medium wp-image-91" src="http://theobstinatesnooper.nnettsplace.server267.com/wp-content/uploads/2008/06/rgbdark.jpg?w=267" alt="RGB dark" width="267" height="200" /></a></p>
<p>rgb dark</td>
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<td><a href="http://theobstinatesnooper.nnettsplace.server267.com/wp-content/uploads/2008/06/labdiffuse.jpg"><img class="alignnone size-full wp-image-92" src="http://theobstinatesnooper.nnettsplace.server267.com/wp-content/uploads/2008/06/labdiffuse.jpg" alt="LAB diffuse" width="267" height="200" /></a></p>
<p><em><strong>lab diffuse (full size at Visual Snoopin&#8217;)<br />
</strong></em></td>
<td><a href="http://theobstinatesnooper.nnettsplace.server267.com/wp-content/uploads/2008/06/rgbdiffuse.jpg"><img class="alignnone size-medium wp-image-93" src="http://theobstinatesnooper.nnettsplace.server267.com/wp-content/uploads/2008/06/rgbdiffuse.jpg?w=267" alt="RGB diffuse" width="267" height="200" /></a></p>
<p>rgb diffuse</td>
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<td><a href="http://theobstinatesnooper.nnettsplace.server267.com/wp-content/uploads/2008/06/labglow.jpg"><img class="alignnone size-full wp-image-94" src="http://theobstinatesnooper.nnettsplace.server267.com/wp-content/uploads/2008/06/labglow.jpg" alt="LAB glow" width="267" height="200" /></a></p>
<p>lab glow</td>
<td><a href="http://theobstinatesnooper.nnettsplace.server267.com/wp-content/uploads/2008/06/rgbglow.jpg"><img class="alignnone size-full wp-image-95" src="http://theobstinatesnooper.nnettsplace.server267.com/wp-content/uploads/2008/06/rgbglow.jpg" alt="RGB glow" width="267" height="200" /></a></p>
<p>rgb glow</td>
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<td><a href="http://theobstinatesnooper.nnettsplace.server267.com/wp-content/uploads/2008/06/labink.jpg"><img class="alignnone size-full wp-image-96" src="http://theobstinatesnooper.nnettsplace.server267.com/wp-content/uploads/2008/06/labink.jpg" alt="LAB ink" width="267" height="200" /></a></p>
<p>lab ink</td>
<td><a href="http://theobstinatesnooper.nnettsplace.server267.com/wp-content/uploads/2008/06/rgbink.jpg"><img class="alignnone size-full wp-image-97" src="http://theobstinatesnooper.nnettsplace.server267.com/wp-content/uploads/2008/06/rgbink.jpg" alt="RGB ink" width="267" height="200" /></a></p>
<p>rgb ink</td>
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<td><a href="http://theobstinatesnooper.nnettsplace.server267.com/wp-content/uploads/2008/06/labknife.jpg"><img class="alignnone size-full wp-image-98" src="http://theobstinatesnooper.nnettsplace.server267.com/wp-content/uploads/2008/06/labknife.jpg" alt="LAB knife" width="267" height="200" /></a></p>
<p>lab knife</td>
<td><a href="http://theobstinatesnooper.nnettsplace.server267.com/wp-content/uploads/2008/06/rgbknife.jpg"><img class="alignnone size-medium wp-image-101" src="http://theobstinatesnooper.nnettsplace.server267.com/wp-content/uploads/2008/06/rgbknife.jpg?w=267" alt="RGB knife" width="267" height="200" /></a></p>
<p>rgb knife</td>
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<td><a href="http://theobstinatesnooper.nnettsplace.server267.com/wp-content/uploads/2008/06/labpencils.jpg"><img class="alignnone size-full wp-image-102" src="http://theobstinatesnooper.nnettsplace.server267.com/wp-content/uploads/2008/06/labpencils.jpg" alt="LAB pencils" width="267" height="200" /></a></p>
<p>lab pencils</td>
<td><a href="http://theobstinatesnooper.nnettsplace.server267.com/wp-content/uploads/2008/06/rgbpencils.jpg"><img class="alignnone size-full wp-image-103" src="http://theobstinatesnooper.nnettsplace.server267.com/wp-content/uploads/2008/06/rgbpencils.jpg" alt="RGB pencils" width="267" height="200" /></a></p>
<p>rgb pencils</td>
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<td><a href="http://theobstinatesnooper.nnettsplace.server267.com/wp-content/uploads/2008/06/labplastic.jpg"><img class="alignnone size-full wp-image-104" src="http://theobstinatesnooper.nnettsplace.server267.com/wp-content/uploads/2008/06/labplastic.jpg" alt="LAB plastic" width="267" height="200" /></a></p>
<p>lab plastic</td>
<td><a href="http://theobstinatesnooper.nnettsplace.server267.com/wp-content/uploads/2008/06/rgbplastic.jpg"><img class="alignnone size-full wp-image-105" src="http://theobstinatesnooper.nnettsplace.server267.com/wp-content/uploads/2008/06/rgbplastic.jpg" alt="RGB plastic" width="267" height="200" /></a></p>
<p>rgb plastic</td>
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<td><a href="http://theobstinatesnooper.nnettsplace.server267.com/wp-content/uploads/2008/06/labposter.jpg"><img class="alignnone size-full wp-image-106" src="http://theobstinatesnooper.nnettsplace.server267.com/wp-content/uploads/2008/06/labposter.jpg" alt="LAB poster" width="267" height="200" /></a></p>
<p>lab poster</td>
<td><a href="http://theobstinatesnooper.nnettsplace.server267.com/wp-content/uploads/2008/06/rgbposter.jpg"><img class="alignnone size-full wp-image-107" src="http://theobstinatesnooper.nnettsplace.server267.com/wp-content/uploads/2008/06/rgbposter.jpg" alt="RGB poster" width="267" height="200" /></a></p>
<p>rgb poster</td>
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<td><a href="http://theobstinatesnooper.nnettsplace.server267.com/wp-content/uploads/2008/06/labsponge.jpg"><img class="alignnone size-full wp-image-108" src="http://theobstinatesnooper.nnettsplace.server267.com/wp-content/uploads/2008/06/labsponge.jpg" alt="LAB sponge" width="267" height="200" /></a></p>
<p>lab sponge</td>
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